( ~ Ed. Please don’t shoot the messenger, there is NO evidence that Jesus existed from historians of his time. FACT!
The gospels were written 70-90 years AFTER his death story, which means since there were no written records, Matthew, Mark, Luke & John’s writings were downloaded clairvoyantly, which means in other times they would have been considered witches and warlocks.
….and which completely ignores, and even denies, the scores of other scriptures and bibles such as found in the Nag Hammadi Library taken private by the Vatican, the Dead Sea Scrolls as well as the apocryphal gospels, non-canonical gospels, Jewish-Christian gospels, and gnostic gospels where only the King James Bible is considered by many Christians as the only true bible, though Protestants follow more the Geneva Bible which is more literally taken from Scriptures which was downloaded from memory by four men. hmmm)
Since its inception Christianity never claimed to be historical, biographical, or even original.
Jesus, Man or Myth
(by Atlantean Conspiracy)
There were dozens of historians who lived in the Mediterranean throughout the supposed life of Jesus, Mary and Joseph: Aulus Perseus, Columella, Justus of Tiberius, Livy, Lucarus, Luctus Florus, Petronius, Phaedrus, Philo Judaeus, Phlegon, Plutarch, Pomponius Mela, Rufus Curtius, Quintillan, Quintus Curtius, Seneca, Silus Italicus, Theon of Smyrna, Valerius Flaccus, Valerius Maximus – None of them so much as mentioned Jesus, his family or his followers. Wouldn’t you think someone who was immaculately conceived, who performed miracles, was revered by thousands and hated by thousands more, someone who was crucified for all our sins then resurrected from death, wouldn’t he be mentioned at least once outside the bible?
“There is no credible evidence whatsoever for the existence of Jesus. No archaeological evidence, no written evidence, nothing. So it is with Solomon, Moses, David, Abraham, Samson and countless other biblical ‘stars’. All we have are the Levite texts and the Gospel stories in their various versions. So desperate did the religious manipulators become to cross reference ‘Jesus’ that they inserted a pathetically obvious addition into the works of the ‘Jewish’ historian, Josephus, to support the unsupportable. More than 40 writers are known to have chronicled the events of these lands during the alleged time of Jesus, but they don’t mention him. A guy who did all the things that he was supposed to have done and no-one records it? Philo lived throughout the supposed life of Jesus and wrote a history of the Judeans which covered the whole of this period. He even lived in or near Jerusalem when Jesus was said to have been born and Herod was supposed to have killed the children, yet he doesn’t record any of this. He was there when Jesus is said to have made his triumphant arrival in Jerusalem and when he was crucified and rose from the dead on the third day. What does Philo say about these fantastic events? Nothing.” -David Icke, “The Biggest Secret” (100)
“We don’t want to be unkind, but we want to be factual. We don’t want to cause hurt feelings, but we want to be academically correct in what we understand and know to be true. Christianity just is not based on truth. We find that Christianity was nothing more than a Roman story developed politically.” -Jordan Maxwell, “Zeitgeist”
“No scholar believes that Osiris or Jupiter or Dionysus was an historical person promoted to the rank of a god, but exception is made only in favor of Jesus.” -Edouard Dujardin, “Ancient History of the God Jesus”
Justin Martyr (100–165AD) was the first and most distinguished Roman Catholic “apologist” of Christianity. The doctrines of the new religion were so disliked and resisted at its conception, apologists tried to smooth the waves. In “The First Apology of Justin,” he argues that Christianity should be accepted because it is already so similar to existing religions.
“When we say that he, Jesus Christ, our teacher, was produced without sexual union, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding the sons of Jupiter.” -Justin Martyr, “The First Apology of Justin”
Entire volumes have been written by Christians comparing Christianity with other Pagan religions. Here Justin Martyr admits the metaphorical (not literal) story of Jesus Christ is precisely analogous to pre-existing beliefs regarding Jupiter.
“And if we even affirm that He was born of a virgin, accept this in common with what you accept of Perseus. And in that we say that He made whole the lame, the paralytic, and those born blind, we seem to say what is very similar to the deeds said to have been done by Aesculapius.” -Justin Martyr, “The First Apology of Justin”
Through the course of the book, Justin Martyr admits that Jesus is analogous to the sons of Jupiter, Mercury, Aesculapius, Bacchus, Hercules, Dioscuri, Perseus, and Bellerophon. He admits their immaculate conceptions, miracles, untimely deaths, and ascents into heaven as symbolically purporting the same thing. He also admits Christianity teaches the same things as poets and philosophers citing Plato, Menander, Sibyl, Hystaspes, and Stoics. Since its inception Christianity never claimed to be historical, biographical, or even original.
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“The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity.” – US President John Adams
“It has served us well, this myth of Christ.” – Pope Leo X
“This whole affair of which we speak and preach, and which is called Gospel, has no reference at all to any person that ever existed, or events that ever occurred upon earth” – Rev. Robert Taylor, “The Devil’s Pulpit”
“The traditional history of Christianity is hopelessly inadequate to the facts. From our research into ancient spirituality it has become obvious that we must fundamentally revise our understanding of Christian origins in the most shocking of ways. Our conclusion, supported by a considerable body of evidence in our book, The Jesus Mysteries, is that Christianity was not a new revelation. It was a continuation of Paganism by another name. The gospel story of Jesus is not the biography of an historical Messiah. It is a Jewish reworking of ancient Pagan myths of the dying and resurrecting Godman Osiris- Dionysus, which had been popular for centuries throughout the ancient Mediterranean.” – Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy, “The Original Jesus”
Characters are often interchangeable within the Bible itself. Joseph in the Old Testament is analogous to Jesus in the New Testament. Joseph was born of a miracle birth, had 12 brothers, one of whom, Judah, suggests the sale of Joseph for 20 gold pieces. Jesus was born of a miracle birth, had 12 disciples, one of whom, Judas, who suggests the sale of Jesus for 30 gold pieces. They both began their work at 30. Are we to believe these are literal people living remarkable, coincidental, analogous existences? Or are they personifications, symbols, metaphors representing the ancients’ wealth of astrological knowledge?
“Jews do not accept Jesus as the Christ or the Messiah. They were the ones in the Middle East; it was their country, their language and their book. If they don’t accept the story, there must be a reason why.” -Jordan Maxwell, “Matrix of Power”
“Nay, not only are there no proofs of the twelve tribes of Israel having ever existed, but Herodotus, the most accurate of historians, who was in Assyria when Ezra flourished, never mentions the Israelites at all…How is this possible?” -Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine, vol. 3
“It is quite exciting, incidentally, to know that the Genesis account of the creation of mankind through its first parentage in Adam and Eve bears the marks of derivation from the primary Egyptian symbolic depiction.” –Alvin Boyd Kuhn, “Ultimate Canon of Knowledge”
Genesis was an ancient sidereal myth taught to Nile temple initiates The very word Genesis means “Genes of Isis,” Isis being the Egyptian version of Mary. The word “Bible” comes from “Buka” reeds used to make papyrus (paper) which grew on the banks of the Nile in Egypt. Another name for Buka was Biblos and this is where we get Book and Bible. The similarities between the Christian and Egyptian religions are practically endless:
The incarnate trinity of Osiris, Horus and Ra, are the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit of Christianity. The carnate trinity Seb, Isis-Meri, and Horus are analogous to Joseph, Mary, and Jesus. Isis and Mary were both virgin mothers commanded to take their sons to Egypt for safety. Seb and Joseph were both carpenters. Seb was the custodian of the mummified dead and Joseph of Arimathea was the keeper of the Corpus Christi. Horus was born in Annu, the place of bread; Jesus was born in Bethlehem, the house of bread. Horus is the gracious child, one of five brethren, brother of Set the betrayer; Jesus is the child full of grace, one of five brothers including Judas the betrayer. Anna came with S’men who held Horus in his arms; Anna the prophetess came with Simeon who held Jesus in his arms. Anup the baptizer was the precursor of Horus, John the Baptist was the forerunner of Jesus. Horus and Jesus were both baptized at age 30; both called the good Shepard, walked on water and cured the blind. Seven Hathors minister to Horus; seven women minister to Jesus. Horus ascends to heaven from Bakhu, the Mount of the olive tree; Jesus ascends to heaven from Mount Olivet. Horus was the word-made-flesh who giveth light by means of his own body and Jesus the word-made-flesh was the light of the world.
Set and Horus were enemies like Satan and Jesus. Set and Horus contended in the desert on the Ben-Ben Pyramidion; Jesus and Satan contended in the wilderness on the pinnacle. Horus was carried off by Set to the summit of Mount Hetep and Jesus was spirited away by Satan into high mountains. Osiris, whom Horus loved, prays he may be buried speedily, sleeps in and is raised from the tomb in Annu; Lazarus, whom Jesus loved, begs his death be effected quickly, sleeps in and is raised from the tomb in Bethany. Then the mummy Osiris is bidden to come forth by Horus like the mummy Lazarus is bidden forth by Jesus. Petar or Petra was the Egyptian revealer to Horus; Peter was the revealer to Christ. There’s Hermes the scribe and Hermas the scribe, Mati, the registrar and Matthew, the clerk, Herrut the slayer of younglings and Herod the murderer of the innocents. Both religions symbolize the dove as the bird of the Holy Spirit. The Egyptian Mysteries are the miracles. The ritual book of resurrection is the book of Revelation. On and on it goes; the similarities between the Egyptian and Christian religions are endless: Baptism, afterlife, judgment, virgin birth, resurrection, crucifixion, ark of the covenant, circumcision, saviors, communion, flood, Easter, Christmas, Passover.
“Egyptian culture was highly influential in the creation of Judaism and Christianity, both of which carnalized and historicized much of the mythos and ritual in their scriptures. Indeed, many scholars have insisted that the Bible is entirely Egyptian …The entire Christian bible, creation legend, descent into and exodus from Egypt, ark and flood allegory, Israelite history, Hebrew prophecy and poetry, Gospels, Epistles and Revelation imagery, all are now proven to have been the transmission of ancient Egypt’s scrolls and papyri into the hands of later generations.” -Acharya S., “The Christ Conspiracy” (266)
“In reality, Christianity was the product of a multinational cabal composed of members of a variety of brotherhoods, secret societies and mystery schools, and was designed to empower and enrich such individuals and to unify their empire. To do so, these conspirators took myriad myths and rituals of virtually all the known cultures and combined them into one, producing a godman to beat them all.” -Acharya S., “The Christ Conspiracy” (289-90)
6 thoughts on “Jesus; Man or Myth?”
Seems you selective pick all the pagan documentation to support your agenda and did not have the courage to challenge your ideas with scholars that with science and hard evidence in the last two centuries prove you bias
Just show me the historical evidence from historians of his time of his living?
Then provide evidence from one person of the time who spoke of his existence in historical proof
A: There is no one.
Then why are not the scores of other Gospels, not included in KJV, not discussed or revealed or disseminated by Christians today which state among other things, that we are all “Co-Creators’ with God, that we Reincarnate in lifetimes, we are not sinners and “imperfect” and that the Kingdom of God lives inside us all, if only we had the knowledge and awareness to fulfill our genuine authenticity to Self-realize…exactly what the Gnostics Gospels taught, who taught the Pagans?
A: Because then Church and State power to Govern (rule) Ment (mind) control would no be necessary.
If facts are difficult for the “unquestioning believer” when new evidence is presented, there only recourse and that is to attack the presenter (messenger), because they cannot argue on facts or vetted his-stoy data while the female Mother Gaia, Mary, Magdalene, Sophia, etc. are demoted to second status to the male hierarchy when the women is the only “creator being” of human form. Hmm, why is that?
http://www.bethinking.org/jesus/ancient-evidence-for-jesus-from-non-christian-sources http://www.prevailmagazine.org/how-archaeology-proves-the-bible/ And then look at the fact that many Bible prophecies have been fulfilled.
Do you note the dates in your links??. AD 55, AD 114, etc. Where is the evidence, like we have of the pyramids some 5,000 – 10,000 years of physical documentation and recordings like we do of the Sumerians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Ancient Greeks, Romans, etc.. All AD! Come on, show me the real evidence of him alive, not heresy, or hear-you-say.
Hi Karen that’s me,
Who was there with him and yet did not record anything from all his “followers” at the time of his life? Where were the scribes of the times? They certainly knew how to engrave historical narrative in stone, yet did not record anything? From the Buddha, we have scrolls and Tanka’s, from Confuscious we have recordings, yet none of, or from Jesus? just asking.
Bonus question few Christians get right
So When Jesus began his alleged ministry, what was his first act as a fully realized human at age 30?
This post is so laughably filled with mistakes that it is hard not to burst out laughing! You cite a quote from David Icke, whom is not a historian (because 99% of historians already understand it is a fact that Jesus lived, this is not debated by historians – fact), rather a writer. Not only is he a writer, but he’s also made a name for himself as a conspiracy theorist, as someone who claimed in the 1990’s to be receiving messages from the spirit world and later within the next year claimed to be the Son of the Godhead. LOL.
You go on to mention several historians of Jesus time who never mentioned him! Wow! Apart from the fact that not a single one of them was a historian of Jesus’ time, excluding Philo of Alexandria (Phlegon lived in the 2nd century, Tiberius was an emperor, not a historian, Theon of Smyrna was a philosopher, not a historian, whom was born in 70 AD, Silus Italicus was a poet born after Jesus died, etc, etc, etc), it does not excuse the fact that this is an Argument from Silence – type of logical fallacy.
You then cite nonsense that is rejected by 99.9% of all historians, which is to say Jesus has any connections at all with Horus, Krishna, Mithras, etc, etc, etc. This is universally rejected by Scholars before all the connections are entirely made up from scratch to fake some kind of connection with Jesus — that’s why you’ll simply never see someone quoting historical sources to show these connections exist, because there is no historical record for things like this. I recommend watching these three very short videos debunking this;
Jesus is also not interchangeable with Joseph. Joseph born of a miracle birth? LOL.
Genesis 30:24-25; “She named him Joseph, saying, “May the LORD give me another son.” Now it came about when Rachel had borne Joseph, that Jacob said to Laban, “Send me away, that I may go to my own place and to my own country.”
So miraculous! She conceived a child like any other women! God, multiple times in the Old Testament, allows infertile women to give birth, I can cite numerous examples. On the other hand, Jesus was born of a virgin, not synonymous with any other birth in the Bible as far as I am concerned.
“The incarnate trinity of Osiris, Horus and Ra, are the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit of Christianity. ”
This is just pure stupidity. Osiris was just Horus’s dad, and Ra was not related to Osiris at all, he just merged with Horus to become the Sun God. This stuff is actually ridiculous. This is beyond ridiculous to even claim. I think you have already done enough to shoot down your own credibility. There is too much to utterly debunk here.
glad you got it all figured out when even the wisest of all of us is only using 15% of our brains capacity!
Keep laughing but don’t read “The 16 Saviors before Jesus” or any pagan history or the Nag Hammadi Library, or the Dead Sea Scrolls, or the Lost 20 bibles, that has been is suppressed and repressed over Roman CAtholic HIS-STory.